Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Not much in the way of modelling done this last weekend - I went along to Manchester O gauge show yesterday but I have managed to get the Beer van into primer.
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Rob Pulham
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The Beer van now has it's transfers and I have started to weather the roof.
The buffer looks to droop in the next shot but having checked it's an optical illusion.
And lastly I tried some of the Skytrex barrels out to see how they fit - they could have been designed for it.
The buffer looks to droop in the next shot but having checked it's an optical illusion.
And lastly I tried some of the Skytrex barrels out to see how they fit - they could have been designed for it.
john lewsey
Western Thunderer
That really is very nice Rob
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Hi Paul,
Bob Alderman made the same observation on the guild site when I first painted the barrels but when looking through my various wagon books there seems to be more examples that were carried on their sides than on their ends - which came as a bit of a surprise because like you and Bob I too would have expected them to be carried on their ends.
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
From http://www.burton-on-trent.org.uk/?s=Burton Construction which is the holder of copyright for the presentation of the image.
adrian
Flying Squad
That photo is also included in a book Railways in Burton and the Trent Valley by H.N.Twells, in which it credits the photo as the authors collection.
Anyway not surprisingly there are a quite a few photo's of barrels loaded, many are stacked upright but that is not to say there weren't a few laid down, often in the same photo. This one has the wagons towards the back obviously stacked on their sides.
Quite a few photo's with 'random' stacking.
So not always stacked upright.
Anyway not surprisingly there are a quite a few photo's of barrels loaded, many are stacked upright but that is not to say there weren't a few laid down, often in the same photo. This one has the wagons towards the back obviously stacked on their sides.
Quite a few photo's with 'random' stacking.
So not always stacked upright.
daifly
Western Thunderer
There may well be a difference in the handling of fulls and empties. A full hogshead (c54 gallons) of beer weighs in at around a quarter of a ton. That's not easy to manhandle to an upright position. Even a barrel (c36 gals) will weigh around 3 hundredweight. I suspect that both of Adrian's pictures show empties being accumulated for return to the brewery for refilling.
I hope that the use of proper imperial measurements doesn't confound younger readers!
Dave
I hope that the use of proper imperial measurements doesn't confound younger readers!
Dave
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Len Cattley
Western Thunderer
I remember how heavy barrels weighed having run a pub with the wife.
Len
Len
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Over time I have built up a reasonable collection of drawings - mostly locos but some wagons. Amongst them is a drawing for a PO Lime wagon by Skinley.
Spurred on by my recent detailing of the LMS open wagon and having run out of plastic kits to build I decided to have a go at scratch building a Lime wagon.
Here are a few photos of progress to date - still a way to go though.
Spurred on by my recent detailing of the LMS open wagon and having run out of plastic kits to build I decided to have a go at scratch building a Lime wagon.
Here are a few photos of progress to date - still a way to go though.
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
I mentioned previously that I took advantage of a Skytrex wagon load offer over Christmas. Among those that I bought were a couple of loads of carbouys. I sprayed them a while ago with a base coat of Vallejo matt earth but it took until last weekend to get any detail paint on them.
The look that I wanted was the dark green glass that I remember from my youth.
In the flesh I think that I have achieved it but they were quite difficult to photograph. I used Vallejo bronze green covered over by a couple of thick coats of the original Johnsons Klear - I stocked up before they changed the recipe. The woodwork and straw packing is Vallejo Bleached Bone with a drop of Model Air New Wood mixed in.
The look that I wanted was the dark green glass that I remember from my youth.
In the flesh I think that I have achieved it but they were quite difficult to photograph. I used Vallejo bronze green covered over by a couple of thick coats of the original Johnsons Klear - I stocked up before they changed the recipe. The woodwork and straw packing is Vallejo Bleached Bone with a drop of Model Air New Wood mixed in.
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
This weekend saw much progress on the lime wagon - the light was so poor I didn't try to do any painting or weathering, with one small exception. I painted the sole bars of the lime wagon once I had finished them in an attempt to make photography easier. I am not sure that I succeeded though.....
I still need to trim back the roof lathes and make the retaining chains for the door catches but then fingers crossed it a coat of primer.
I found it quite therapeutic filing up all the details for the solebars - all were done holing the part in smooth jawed pliers while filing with a small emery board (the type that ladies use for their nails - I get packs of them for about 60p from Boyes Stores).
I still need to trim back the roof lathes and make the retaining chains for the door catches but then fingers crossed it a coat of primer.
I found it quite therapeutic filing up all the details for the solebars - all were done holing the part in smooth jawed pliers while filing with a small emery board (the type that ladies use for their nails - I get packs of them for about 60p from Boyes Stores).
john lewsey
Western Thunderer
Superb Rob
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Thanks John, I am really quite pleased with it for a first go.
john lewsey
Western Thunderer
I think it's a really lovely model Rob
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
In between progressing the lime wagon last weekend I also finished painting my last Skytrex wagon load which is a set of pipes.
I have struggled to get some decent photos that show that they do actually look like ceramic pipes - achieved by painting them with artists acrylic terracotta (which I managed to get to spray without problem by thinning with Tamiya thinners). This was then painted with a couple of layers of Johnsons clear to get that deep sheen that you get on glazed ceramic pipes.
I may need to scratch build a pipe wagon (if I can find a shortish prototype - the load is designed to fit a 10' wagon). I have a Connoisseur Pipe wagon kit in the stash but having looked at the size of one when built up this load would be dwarfed by it I think.
I have struggled to get some decent photos that show that they do actually look like ceramic pipes - achieved by painting them with artists acrylic terracotta (which I managed to get to spray without problem by thinning with Tamiya thinners). This was then painted with a couple of layers of Johnsons clear to get that deep sheen that you get on glazed ceramic pipes.
I may need to scratch build a pipe wagon (if I can find a shortish prototype - the load is designed to fit a 10' wagon). I have a Connoisseur Pipe wagon kit in the stash but having looked at the size of one when built up this load would be dwarfed by it I think.
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Over the weekend I managed to get the lime wagon ready for it's transfers - I just need to make them...
On Saturday Chris and I had a wander down to Shildon to see Doug, Graham and the gang who had their test track up. I took Severn and my Y6 along for a run both of them pulling the lime wagon.
On Saturday Chris and I had a wander down to Shildon to see Doug, Graham and the gang who had their test track up. I took Severn and my Y6 along for a run both of them pulling the lime wagon.
Puddlejumper
Western Thunderer
We had a really good weekend, loads of interest and a few more folk coming along to run their stuff. Good to catch up again mate and the wagon looks great
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
This weekend's endeavours was the build of a Parkside NBR 4 plank open wagon with side doors.
A look through Tatlow volume 3 revealed that these wagons came as 3 and 4 plank, fixed sides, drop sides and the side door versions which is a nice amount of variety - and prompted me to make a start on the body of drop door version. My idea is to buy some set of underframe sprues from Parkside (and perhaps some buffer sets). The kit itself is a nice kit if a little basic which works for me - again Tatlow revealing more details to be added from plastic strip etc.
The rope hooks are made from some brass pins that I bought a few years ago that have odd shaped heads. Odd shaped in the the heads are lop sided and no amount of turning will make them round and sat square on the ends of the pins for use as bolts or rivets etc. A recent experiment had me annealing the head, then squashing it in a pair of smooth jawed pliers before drilling a hole in the end and using them as eye bolts. In this case a cross pin was soldered in to give a representation of the rope hooks. I also carved off the moulded horse hooks and added a piece of bent wire.
The chain and pin for the brake lever guard are made from plastic rod/fine brass wire - again the end squashed and cross drilled. What is interesting is that on many of these wagons the chain is attached to the lever itself at one end.
More plastic strip was added for the top capping.
And finally a couple of shots of progress on the dropside version
A look through Tatlow volume 3 revealed that these wagons came as 3 and 4 plank, fixed sides, drop sides and the side door versions which is a nice amount of variety - and prompted me to make a start on the body of drop door version. My idea is to buy some set of underframe sprues from Parkside (and perhaps some buffer sets). The kit itself is a nice kit if a little basic which works for me - again Tatlow revealing more details to be added from plastic strip etc.
The rope hooks are made from some brass pins that I bought a few years ago that have odd shaped heads. Odd shaped in the the heads are lop sided and no amount of turning will make them round and sat square on the ends of the pins for use as bolts or rivets etc. A recent experiment had me annealing the head, then squashing it in a pair of smooth jawed pliers before drilling a hole in the end and using them as eye bolts. In this case a cross pin was soldered in to give a representation of the rope hooks. I also carved off the moulded horse hooks and added a piece of bent wire.
The chain and pin for the brake lever guard are made from plastic rod/fine brass wire - again the end squashed and cross drilled. What is interesting is that on many of these wagons the chain is attached to the lever itself at one end.
More plastic strip was added for the top capping.
And finally a couple of shots of progress on the dropside version