Fred Phipps Class 22 Build
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taliesin
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I just could not resist slipping the wheels back in and posing it on some track,
The yellow tamiya tape you can see is holding on the cylinders while the glue goes off.
In an earlier posting i stated that the sprung end was towards the middle, Doh ! it is actually the other way round and the sprung set leads the way.
Now if only the motor's would turn up, cheers for now, Rob
The yellow tamiya tape you can see is holding on the cylinders while the glue goes off.
In an earlier posting i stated that the sprung end was towards the middle, Doh ! it is actually the other way round and the sprung set leads the way.
Now if only the motor's would turn up, cheers for now, Rob
taliesin
Western Thunderer
Well it finally happened 
, after just getting the usual bills and assorted crap from the postman today saw a pair of these delivered, Maxon 6w motors fitted with ABC twin stage gearboxes along with the delrin chain and sprockets,
Only one pictured as i had already started before remembering to take some pictures.
Having looked at the built up bogie it was obvious a slot had to be cut out from the top surface which was relatively easy then a method of securing it all had to be devised. As the gearbox can swing around the axle if unsecured after much scratching of head a real hi-tech solution evolved.........
A bracket soldered to the top of the bogie followed by a cable tie, not as hard fitting as nuts and bolts but secure, simple and easy to remove in the future, remember i only have to stop it swinging on the axle.
Next came the gears and delrin chain, pretty uneventful and luckily just enough clearance between the gearbox and the bearings.
Sorry for the picture quality but i hope they show enough detail.
After this the underfloors were modified for the delrin chain run, and the outer frames bolted back on,
Finally power was applied just to make sure it actually worked, and i am happy to say it turned over like a dream, a testament to the quality of the kit manufacturer Fred Phipps, Mark Wood's wheels and axles and the motor/gearboxes from ABC Gears. I am a happy bodger this afternoon, cheers Rob
, after just getting the usual bills and assorted crap from the postman today saw a pair of these delivered, Maxon 6w motors fitted with ABC twin stage gearboxes along with the delrin chain and sprockets, Only one pictured as i had already started before remembering to take some pictures.
Having looked at the built up bogie it was obvious a slot had to be cut out from the top surface which was relatively easy then a method of securing it all had to be devised. As the gearbox can swing around the axle if unsecured after much scratching of head a real hi-tech solution evolved.........
A bracket soldered to the top of the bogie followed by a cable tie, not as hard fitting as nuts and bolts but secure, simple and easy to remove in the future, remember i only have to stop it swinging on the axle.
Next came the gears and delrin chain, pretty uneventful and luckily just enough clearance between the gearbox and the bearings.
Sorry for the picture quality but i hope they show enough detail.
After this the underfloors were modified for the delrin chain run, and the outer frames bolted back on,
Finally power was applied just to make sure it actually worked, and i am happy to say it turned over like a dream, a testament to the quality of the kit manufacturer Fred Phipps, Mark Wood's wheels and axles and the motor/gearboxes from ABC Gears. I am a happy bodger this afternoon
, cheers Rob
taliesin
Western Thunderer
I then decided to do just a touch of posing, to begin with the bogie bolted into the chassis, and yes, that is a banana in the background but not of the flying GWR variety,
Then with the body on
Another bogie to build up later, Cinderella got to go to the ball and barring any disasters D6322 should get to go to the Gauge 1 EXPO next weekend to be displayed by that nice Mr Castens. Cheers to all, Rob
Then with the body on
Another bogie to build up later, Cinderella got to go to the ball and barring any disasters D6322 should get to go to the Gauge 1 EXPO next weekend to be displayed by that nice Mr Castens. Cheers to all, Rob
taliesin
Western Thunderer
Mindful of the fact that i sometimes charge ahead with out taking pictures here is the second bogie etch,
if you compare it to a picture earlier in the thread of an unmolested etch then the mods should be pretty obvious, the notch is to give clearance for the bearings at the bottom end of the gearbox. This etch has now been folded up and soldered, also the end brackets have been attached,
Think i have done enough today so time to eat a banana, cheers Rob
if you compare it to a picture earlier in the thread of an unmolested etch then the mods should be pretty obvious, the notch is to give clearance for the bearings at the bottom end of the gearbox. This etch has now been folded up and soldered, also the end brackets have been attached,
Think i have done enough today so time to eat a banana, cheers Rob
Phill Dyson
Western Thunderer
Nice work Rob 
..........should run as well as it looks with Maxon's & ABC's
..........should run as well as it looks with Maxon's & ABC's
taliesin
Western Thunderer
Nice work Rob
Thanks Phill, I must admit my knowledge of gear ratio's etc is pretty close to zero, when i contacted our man at ABC i went with what he recommended. He reckons that this combination would give a scale top speed of 75 - 80 mph which is pretty cool when you think the prototype was geared to do 75 mph flat out. I do not intend to run at these speeds but i do hope it's smooth with good pulling power, i have never been attracted to "all show but no go".
All the best, Rob
taliesin
Western Thunderer
I managed to do a bit more this morning, first job was to complete the underfloors by folding up the sides on them and soldering 8ba nuts behind for the fixing screws, you end up with whats shown in the first picture. I must admit when i built up the first bogie i was highly impressed that five pieces of etch built up in to such a strong and square structure, having built the second i am still of the same opinion 
.
The second picture shows the top hat bearings soldered in, the etched hole is slightly undersized so a 1/4 reamer was used to enlarge the holes, then place the bearings in and solder them on remembering to put a rod through them so that they line up first time. I have also screwed on the previously made suspension units.
And finally my motor bracket,
Vorsprung durch technic it ain't but it works for me and i guess thats what matters, notice the cruel close up of my less than perfect soldering skills
. The next stage is to build it up with the wheels and motors etc,
cheers to all, Rob
. The second picture shows the top hat bearings soldered in, the etched hole is slightly undersized so a 1/4 reamer was used to enlarge the holes, then place the bearings in and solder them on remembering to put a rod through them so that they line up first time. I have also screwed on the previously made suspension units.
And finally my motor bracket,
Vorsprung durch technic it ain't but it works for me and i guess thats what matters, notice the cruel close up of my less than perfect soldering skills
. The next stage is to build it up with the wheels and motors etc,cheers to all, Rob
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
I can see nothing wrong with the soldering or the solder joint... cleaning up? that is a comment that you have to make
.regards, Graham
Dog Star
Western Thunderer
True... my comment was in regards to the apparent skill in making the solder joint - clean, even/smooth, no trace of gunge.
taliesin
Western Thunderer
Having had a pleasant afternoon out at Cambridge Model Engineering Society watching the ride-on stuff i returned to do some more, the wheels, motors and drive chains were fitted and the underfloors modified for the chain run.
Unsurprisingly it looks just like the other one, then i mounted it into the chassis,
Finally a couple of pictures with the body on,
It is my intention to take it to the show next weekend like this as a work in progress, by leaving one pair of side frames off it allows those interested to understand a bit of the construction process and of course get a good look at Mark's wheels, cheers for now, Rob
Unsurprisingly it looks just like the other one, then i mounted it into the chassis,
Finally a couple of pictures with the body on,
It is my intention to take it to the show next weekend like this as a work in progress, by leaving one pair of side frames off it allows those interested to understand a bit of the construction process and of course get a good look at Mark's wheels, cheers for now, Rob
taliesin
Western Thunderer
Having recovered from the Fosse show last weekend i have now built up the second bogie side frame assembly,
At this stage both bogies are identical but when it comes to adding the detail there are differences between the A and B end so as a reminder to self i have added the "centre bolt" onto the inner axle centre cover on the A end,
Hopefully this subtle fitting will remind me that i am working on the A end, if not i could always read the instructions before doing anything Something i am often guilty of not doing 
cheers for now, Rob
At this stage both bogies are identical but when it comes to adding the detail there are differences between the A and B end so as a reminder to self i have added the "centre bolt" onto the inner axle centre cover on the A end,
Hopefully this subtle fitting will remind me that i am working on the A end, if not i could always read the instructions before doing anything
Something i am often guilty of not doing cheers for now, Rob
taliesin
Western Thunderer
Many thanks Simon, i have started to build the suspension sub-assemblies, cheers Rob
