timbowales
Western Thunderer
Dave, what gauge is the Pacer?
If it's EM I'll readily give it a home
If it's EM I'll readily give it a home
4mm Wharfeside, a lifetime's project
- Thread starter Dave F.
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Herb Garden
Western Thunderer
I don't think any of us have seen a pacer move so fast!
Dave F.
Western Thunderer
Someone posted this on youtube so I'll put a link up here:-
First eleven minutes are Wharfeside, some of the running is still a bit fast, the reverse movement was tested at half that speed and with slow starts and stops. Locos did run well though with the Mashima can motor replacements in the few Bachmann locos. The kitbuilt locos have compensated chassis and later builds have CSB suspension. The track is as flat as I could make it in the hope that derailments could be reduced to a minimum, the very occasional derailment was either operator error or a rogue point not moving right across in the fiddleyard.
All in all I'm quite happy with the way the layout performed first time out and with some more practice the operation might be even smoother.
I'd like to thank all the guys and gals who took turns in running the railway over the three days and I think they enjoyed the challenge.
Dave F.
All in all I'm quite happy with the way the layout performed first time out and with some more practice the operation might be even smoother.
I'd like to thank all the guys and gals who took turns in running the railway over the three days and I think they enjoyed the challenge.
Dave F.
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James Spooner
Western Thunderer
That’s looking very good!Someone posted this on youtube so I'll put a link up here:-First eleven minutes are Wharfeside, some of the running is still a bit fast, the reverse movement was tested at half that speed and with slow starts and stops. Locos did run well though with the Mashima can motor replacements in the few Bachmann locos. The kitbuilt locos have compensated chassis and later builds have CSB suspension. The track is as flat as I could make it in the hope that derailments could be reduced to a minimum, the very occasional derailment was either operator error or a rogue point not moving right across in the fiddleyard.
All in all I'm quite happy with the way the layout performed first time out and with some more practice the operation might be even smoother.
I'd like to thank all the guys and gals who took turns in running the railway over the three days and I think they enjoyed the challenge.
Dave F.
Nigel
A couple more photos taken in the club. The plain painted wall is a much better background imho than the exhibition. I still can't get the train climbing out the cutting image that you get from the operators chair. Guess it's the incompatibility of a phone camera lens compared to my aging eyesight
Dave F.
Western Thunderer
Hi Ian, thanks for putting these up though it does show two locos that didn't get finished for Model Rail. No numbers on the peak and no glazing on the Dubdee, in fact the Dubdee only got it's cylinders painted the day before you took the picture.
Fiona's wall looks great though and received a lot of comments at Glasgow.
Dave F.
Fiona's wall looks great though and received a lot of comments at Glasgow.
Dave F.
Have the scenic wizards ( using old teddy bear fur) addressed the operator complaint of being unable to see the some signals through the trees? Wharfeside in early winter! Peak still to be numbered!
I hope the likes are from people who saw through and appreciated the April Foolery, created simply, or by luck, with the default photo filters on an iPad. By luck? This and the previous two photos were part of a set taken within five minutes. This was the only one where the grass looked half dead and sun bleached
I hope the likes are from people who saw through and appreciated the April Foolery, created simply, or by luck, with the default photo filters on an iPad. By luck? This and the previous two photos were part of a set taken within five minutes. This was the only one where the grass looked half dead and sun bleached
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Dave has mentioned that Fiona commented on the lack of her trees in the viaduct photos. As Dave tactfully mentioned, the photos were taken before the trees were planted. So, just for Fiona, more recognition for her contributions to Wharfside
Just the rest of the wooded valley to complete.
And finally, proof that we don't all take the hobby too seriously........ wearing a pacer livery shirt in order to run the adopted pacer through Wharfside......
Sorry Dave
Just the rest of the wooded valley to complete.
And finally, proof that we don't all take the hobby too seriously........ wearing a pacer livery shirt in order to run the adopted pacer through Wharfside......
Sorry Dave
The birch trees are very nice and well observed. Instantly recognisable as birch growing in an exposed/upland situation.
Dave F.
Western Thunderer
Looks like we lost a few posts over the last wee while. The NER B16 had progressed quite well and is now seen running.
And on the train it's being built for, I've got the ladders etched for the tankers so just the manhole and walkways to cast.
A Caprotti on the Waverly
Hope they work as I've lost the way of doing the upload so this is a trial.
Dave.
A Caprotti on the Waverly
Hope they work as I've lost the way of doing the upload so this is a trial.
Dave.
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Dave F.
Western Thunderer
A couple more videos.
This train was normally double headed due to the gradients both up and down and the fact it was unfitted, there could be various combinations of NE region locomotives, B16, J39, WD. Also seen, Royal Scot 'Cameronian' my local regiment heading the Thames/Clyde express.
Bachmann 4F (re-wheeled and re-motored) on a coal train passing a WD 2-10-0 90763 on a freight from Carlisle. The WD was occasionally seen at Leeds from Carlisle and was the only one based at an English shed most of it's days, a DJH kit on a scratch chassis with CSB suspension.
Dave
This train was normally double headed due to the gradients both up and down and the fact it was unfitted, there could be various combinations of NE region locomotives, B16, J39, WD. Also seen, Royal Scot 'Cameronian' my local regiment heading the Thames/Clyde express.
Bachmann 4F (re-wheeled and re-motored) on a coal train passing a WD 2-10-0 90763 on a freight from Carlisle. The WD was occasionally seen at Leeds from Carlisle and was the only one based at an English shed most of it's days, a DJH kit on a scratch chassis with CSB suspension.
Dave
Just love the video of the WD with the spotter on the footbridge. Fantastic stuff.
Dave F.
Western Thunderer
Hi Pete, how's things with your railway?
I haven't seen that photo but it could have been up near Middlesborough rather than the Wharfedale line, it's written in one of my books that the Q6s were banned from the line and only got as far as Otley on the pickup goods.
Thanks for all the 'likes' people, much appreciated. I'll try to post pictures and videos when something interesting happens now that I've worked how to do it again though I'm still not happy with the jerkiness of some of the shots, it is the upload and not the engines, honest....
Dave F.
Are the cheques in the post?
Modellers, maybe collectors too, tend to appreciate other people's efforts, more so if they find them inspirational. I'm afraid it's a bugbear you'll have to carry for building a layout so many people would like as their own.
When are we taking it out again?
This seems to be a 'feature' of a lot of videos uploaded on the web including my own. I've come to the conclusion it's something to do with how YouTube uploads/renders them as it doesn't seem to matter what the original file is, the quality and file type etc. Worse is it's not consistent and some are rather more stuttery than others for no apparent reason. But seeing them is still miles better than still shots, nice though they are, so please do keep posting them.
Bob
Hi Dave,
It took me a while to refind the photo, but it was on the facebook group 'Railways Around Harrogate & Yorkshire', posted by Martin Counter on 13/08/2023. The caption just states 'photo from the late Bill Counter Collection', but on the photo it says it is Q6 63426 at Harrogate in 1962. BRLocoDatabase says this was allocated to Thornaby 6/58-12/62, so is presumably is on the turn in place of the usual WD or J39? Comments suggest it was heading to Wharfedale - were there other alternatives for the ammonia traffic coming through Harrogate?
There is a comment on the facebook post suggesting it looked like it was taken from 'the Stray footbridge'.
I had read, I think in one of the 'Railway Memories' series of books (I'm not at home tonight so can't check) that the Neville Hill Q6s only worked as far as Otley, but took that to mean that was the end of the diagram rather than them being specifically barred further on. I do have a document (BR31293 BR North Eastern Region Supplementary operating instructions) from 07/03/1959 which doesn't mention them (but does mention WDs as being newly allowed, and Q6s newly allowed elsewhere) - but I think this is merely the updates/changes. It would be interesting to know what the original document said, and whether any further updates were issued between then and 1962.
My layout plans havent progressed in themselves (aside from a joint layout for the Scalefour society challenge, but thats on the Great Northern section the other side of Keighley) - however we moved house at the beginning of the year, and got a couple of outbuildings to suit both of our hobbies. I ended up with the wooden workshop, which does need new doors, windows and insulating - but is 40' x 20' - though I need to allocate some of that to 'dirty workshop' and some to 014, it has a lot of potential! I'm in two minds as to whether to try and do Embsay directly, or a mish mash of Embsay and Bolton Abbey (to allow termination of Sunday DMU excursions there). Most of my available brainpower is currently busy with the challenge layout, but I will soon start thinking about how to make the most of the space.
Dave F.
Western Thunderer
Hi Pete, that's an interesting photo though the tankers do look like a fuel oil train. In all my books and research there hasn't been a photo of a Q6 or the more useful Q7 on the Wharfedale line which is strange as a B16 had the same boiler as a Q7, I can't find my book with the axleweights or dimensions given, the B16 being heavier overall by 9 tons though spread over more wheels but in my B16 books it refers to the boiler fittings being reduced in height to increase the route availability so it could more likely be that. Some Q7s did still have the taller chimney that the B16 once had so maybe it's to do with the height.
Dave.
Dave.
