S7 at York
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adrian
Flying Squad
You might want to have a quick word with the organisers - they're expecting a 0-FS version!
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
I've found this a lot over the years that some people can't get their heads around the fact that S7 is not O gauge !
Sometime ago I was helping to exhibit a S7 layout and someone asked me where he could buy the track used on the layout as he thought it was far more convincing than his own layout ! I asked what he'd been using and he replied as I thought "Peco".
I explained that what he was looking at was hand built to S7 standards, something he had never heard of. An explanation of track gauge dimensions and that it was 7mm to the foot scale still got " oh it's O gauge then " .....NO IT'S NOT , O gauge is under scale !
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That's when you give up and grab the black coffee !
Anyone mentions S7 trees will be shot on sight !
Sometime ago I was helping to exhibit a S7 layout and someone asked me where he could buy the track used on the layout as he thought it was far more convincing than his own layout ! I asked what he'd been using and he replied as I thought "Peco".
I explained that what he was looking at was hand built to S7 standards, something he had never heard of. An explanation of track gauge dimensions and that it was 7mm to the foot scale still got " oh it's O gauge then " .....NO IT'S NOT , O gauge is under scale !
.That's when you give up and grab the black coffee !
Anyone mentions S7 trees will be shot on sight !
mickoo
Western Thunderer
Or S7 paintAnyone mentions S7 trees will be shot on sight !
Jordan or Plymouth Mad
Mid-Western Thunderer
But it is still O Scale, isn't it?" oh it's O gauge then " .....NO IT'S NOT , O gauge is under scale !
People do get 'scale' & 'gauge' mixed up - it's like there is no such thing really as an 'OO Scale' layout.
Doesn't stop people using that designation.
Oz7mm
Western Thunderer
0 Scale is usually used in the context of 1:48 as far as I am aware. And that isn't 0 Gauge as the correct gauge should be 29.9mm (Proto48 specification).But it is still O Scale, isn't it?
People do get 'scale' & 'gauge' mixed up - it's like there is no such thing really as an 'OO Scale' layout.
Let's just do what we enjoy
John
Jordan or Plymouth Mad
Mid-Western Thunderer
Yes, in an American context, 'O scale' tends to be used as shorthand for '2-rail', & 'O gauge' 3-rail. In the UK where 3-rail is the niche interest, both terms tend to be interchanged in description of standard 1:43(.5 for the pedants) scale.
Doing what we enjoy; absolutely!!
In terms of S7 layouts, I recall seeing a fantastic 7mm goods yard layout at the Wolverhampton show some years ago. What made me realise it was S7 first was actually the wheel flanges on the rolling stock, rather than the track. It was only seeing the fine flanges that led me to look closer at the track, & see the narrow flangeways in the pointwork. I would never have guessed it was S7 from gauge alone. But taken altogether, those elements do lift S7 track & models above standard O scale.
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Hayfield1
Western Thunderer
But it is still O Scale, isn't it?
People do get 'scale' & 'gauge' mixed up - it's like there is no such thing really as an 'OO Scale' layout.
Jordan or Plymouth mad
This is a subject that comes up quite often in other scale/gauges combos
Gauge is the distance between the rails, nothing to do with scale
Whilst 0 gauge usually refers to a model in 7mm scale with a track gauge of 32mm
Scale 7 has a track gauge of 33mm but shares a scale (as ) gauge) of 7mm, but its not 0 gauge
Finescale ca equally apply to both gauge standards as far as the level of detail of the stock and scenery (less so to the track with 0 gauge)
To complicate matters you can have 0-16.5 (should be called 7mm narrow gauge) and SM32 (16mm to the foot with a track gauge of 32mm
Also you gave 0 gauge coarse, where the track standards are compatible with earlier (legacy) standards.
Or 0MF which has a 31.5 gauge
In short no wonder people get confused
John
Jordan or Plymouth Mad
Mid-Western Thunderer
Osgood
Western Thunderer
Yes, I thought that was the point I was making too...
It would be a mighty fine point to make - if you were to make it to S7 standards.
Giles
Western Thunderer
...hang on..... I model in 0-14.....!
Hayfield1
Western Thunderer
Jordan or Plymouth Mad
Mid-Western Thunderer
Not sure if that's the one
the Class 08 didn't derail like that one has... 
Do operators have to stand on a big box to see over the backscene? I distinctly remember that as well.
Osgood
Western Thunderer
The one thing that really jumps outs at me here is the rusted rail surface so typical of infrequently used sidings.I did make it difficult to see the track
I know of no other in S7.
Some of the time it ran as GW 1920 or it ran as BR as above.
So come on then- how did you do it?
SimonT
Western Thunderer
Guilty of the box standing M'lud.
Steel rail. The colour is entirely down the the photography and a lot of very dirty Railzip. I have only ever used steel rail and gave up cleaning track many years ago. There was a time when I painted the top of check rails with a rust colour but now I'm a lot better and off the medication, thank you.
Steel rail. The colour is entirely down the the photography and a lot of very dirty Railzip. I have only ever used steel rail and gave up cleaning track many years ago. There was a time when I painted the top of check rails with a rust colour but now I'm a lot better and off the medication, thank you.