Re: Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

Steph Dale

Steph Dale

Western Thunderer
Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

28ten said:
Im looking at this photo thinking how would I scratchbuild this ? http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/bropenmerchandiseowvcorrugated/e1fe45686  best I can come up with is 3d printing, any other ideas?
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Cynric,

I'm not all that familiar with the prototype, but I'm wondering if it may be something that would be better formed as a negative?  So work out how to make the mould, rather than the side.

As an alternative you could probably get it pressed...

Steph
 
28ten

28ten

Guv'nor
Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

I did think about pressing it, but that would require a form of some sort, it is one of those little projects that has been hanging about for about 12 months  :))
I have just had my mitts on a sample from Shapeways which might have possibilities, and I cant think of any other way of making it  :scratch:
 
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Simon Dunkley

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Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

Mount some plastic sheet on the vertical slide of the lathe with double-sided tape, and mill the grooves with a ball-shaped cutter. Unless you have a milling machine, in which case do it on that. Finish off with some sanding, and you have yourself a master for casting.
 
Old Buffer

Old Buffer

Western Thunderer
Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

For when I start my vans I got some corregated steel sheets from Metalsmiths of Kettering, a bit expensive for what you get but they are 7mm size. Also I have some photo's of both plywood and planked vans, will post them after the close down. Will they be ok in the gallery.
Alan
 
28ten

28ten

Guv'nor
Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

That's a good idea, Simon. What about if I wanted to do the reverse side ?
 
Ressaldar

Ressaldar

Western Thunderer
Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

The link was taking forever to load, so I'm guessing here.

Fiskars,?spelling, the scissor and craft cutting people do a crimping tool for paper/thin card, which the Club bought some years ago for making corrugated roofing. It might be worth a trip to your local Hobbycraft store to see if there is a current model. We used some brass shim through ours and it came out quite well. Cut to width first then trim to length after and Robert's your father's brother - a lot cheaper and quicker than setting up mills etc.

cheers

Mike
 
Phill Dyson

Phill Dyson

Western Thunderer
Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

A  garden bodger would press the shape out of aluminium take away trays using corrogated plasticard as a former...........I'll get mi coat  :))
 
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Simon Dunkley

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Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

28ten said:
That's a good idea, Simon. What about if I wanted to do the reverse side ?
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Half-round strip and a bit of filler and sanding, or for easier control of spacing, alternate between round rod and rectangular bars, the thickness of which is half the diameter of the rod.

The latter is not my idea, but picked up from Model Railways about 30 years ago: may have been Barry Fleming.
 
Pennine MC

Pennine MC

Western Thunderer
Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

28ten said:
That's a good idea, Simon. What about if I wanted to do the reverse side ?
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The insides of the ends were lined with planks, so unless you were modelling  a particularly decrepit wagon, you'd not need to. Might also be worth pointing out that the Highfit ends are different to those on vans - the corrugations effectively dip inwards rather than pushing outwards
 
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Simon Dunkley

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Pennine MC said:
Corrugated ends on wagons/vans
The insides of the ends were lined with planks, so unless you were modelling a particularly decrepit wagon, you'd not need to. Might also be worth pointing out that the Highfit ends are different to those on vans - the corrugations effectively dip inwards rather than pushing outwards
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Misunderstood Cynric's question, and thought he wanted to make a van end.

Yep, thought: a horizontal plank top and bottom, and vertical in between, yes?
Just a simple scribing job!
 
28ten

28ten

Guv'nor
Simon Dunkley said:
Misunderstood Cynric's question, and thought he wanted to make a van end.

Yep, thought: a horizontal plank top and bottom, and vertical in between, yes?
Just a simple scribing job!
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Im looking at both :)
I didnt realise that the opens had planks in the inside, all the old rusty ones I have seen had none
Either way I now have some very good solutions
 
28ten

28ten

Guv'nor
Pennine MC said:
Corrugated ends on wagons/vans

The insides of the ends were lined with planks, so unless you were modelling a particularly decrepit wagon, you'd not need to. Might also be worth pointing out that the Highfit ends are different to those on vans - the corrugations effectively dip inwards rather than pushing outwards
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Obscure question :D did they all have vertical planks like this being used as a clayliner? http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bropenmerchandiseowvcorrugated/h1FE45686#h103e5831
 
Old Buffer

Old Buffer

Western Thunderer
IIRC they were vertical as it was easier to fit the planks to the corrugations, can't remember if some were level with the side planks though, but I think not.
Alan
 
28ten

28ten

Guv'nor
I picked up a copy of Drawings of LMS wagons vol 2 whilst at Simons today and it has answered most of my questions :) I just need a copy of volume one now :D
 
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