Playing around with AI

paratom

Western Thunderer
I thought I would see what AI could do to and some life to an official photo of the MR station Grindleford. Here are the results, not perfect but an enjoyable exercise indeed.

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RichardG

Western Thunderer
I’m not counting but I’ll bet there are not 80 fingers & thumbs between them… :D
Some latitude is possible. In the film "Get Carter", the man drinking in the bar in Newcastle has five fingers and a thumb on the hand holding his glass.

I like the rendering but the juxtaposition of the people is a bit awkward - two women with luggage, four men doing nothing to help.
 

RichardG

Western Thunderer
I wonder if a future version of the software will understand photographic compositions, so for example it doesn't arrange for a lamp to be sprouting out of someone's head.
 

Osgood

Western Thunderer
If the black & white photo attached is the only piece of reality that you inputted, @paratom , I would say we're in for a most uncertain future, where choosing between reality and illusion may no longer even be practical.

Maybe, for many of us who can remember a simpler life, it's approaching time to get off the train - and Grindleford seems as good a place to alight as any :))
 

paratom

Western Thunderer
If the black & white photo attached is the only piece of reality that you inputted, @paratom , I would say we're in for a most uncertain future, where choosing between reality and illusion may no longer even be practical.

Maybe, for many of us who can remember a simpler life, it's approaching time to get off the train - and Grindleford seems as good a place to alight as any :))
I wouldn't get off there unless your a cistercian monk on holiday.
 

oldravendale

Western Thunderer
I thought I would see what AI could do to and some life to an official photo of the MR station Grindleford. Here are the results, not perfect but an enjoyable exercise indeed.

What did you input to get that result, @paratom ? At one level it's quite convincing but once one questions the details it becomes obvious it's not an original photo.

Brian
 

Osgood

Western Thunderer
.... At one level it's quite convincing but once one questions the details it becomes obvious it's not an original photo.

Other than perhaps the imagined colourisation being too precise, I don't see anything obviously wrong.
Without a wealth of experience of the observed railway a layperson would I think be struggling?

So what gives it away for others?
 
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sjp23480

Western Thunderer
So what gives it away for others?

@Osgood I suspect you are more likely to win the lottery than having a picture of two pairs of male twins on the same station platform on the same day in the early part of the C20th.

Even less likely that one pair of said twins are the station staff - although I am sure someone will prove me wrong on this point. There's an exception to every rule.
 

Osgood

Western Thunderer
Didn't pay much attention to the characters (and certainly not enough to clock your deft observation) - too absorbed by the railway stuff :))
 

Osgood

Western Thunderer
So - unless you are confident enough in the source of an image to accept it at face value, imagine having to study the detail in each image to this extent before you can make a fair assessment of its integrity.

What have we done........
 

Yorkshire Dave

Western Thunderer
At one level it's quite convincing but once one questions the details it becomes obvious it's not an original photo.

AI used like this has shades of the Cottingley Fairies

As regarding the detail and after studying Victorian/Edwardian station photographs it would be unlikely you would have a family group next to station staff given the deference paid between the social classes of the period. Of the photographs I have seen of this era people are always looking at the camera as it would be an unusual event given that only those sufficient funds would be able to afford a camera.

Railway staff are generally seen in line facing the camera as if a group photograph and passengers are seen in their own separate group, again facing the camera. Granted, there will be exceptions where the photograph may capture passengers looking away from the camera.

AI has alot to learn - it may be relatively good with images but it lacks intelligence to satisfactorily analyse and process historical, social and cultural information which can be gleaned from printed matter and images.
 
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