Mr Grumpy

[Mr Grumpy]

While tracking down the info for the fans, I have taken Richard's advice and started with the bogies (just the cosmetic frames).
However, I have noticed Brian's pic of 47082 has the spindles protruding above the fan blades, so will probably model my loco's the same.

Back to the bogies.....
I need to source some 1mm-1.5mm cross section hexagonal brass length and drill out .5mm through it's length to make these adjusters just above the spring:

 

[mickoo]

While tracking down the info for the fans, I have taken Richard's advice and started with the bogies (just the cosmetic frames).
However, I have noticed Brian's pic of 47082 has the spindles protruding above the fan blades, so will probably model my loco's the same.

Back to the bogies.....
I need to source some 1mm-1.5mm cross section hexagonal brass length and drill out .5mm through it's length to make these adjusters just above the spring:
View attachment 47993

Eileens, simples.

https://www.eileensemporium.com/ind...mart&page=shop.browse&category_id=81&Itemid=9

Or specifically 1.5 mm.

https://www.eileensemporium.com/ind...category_id=81&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=9

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Thanks Mick

 

[richard carr]

I thougth they were in the kit

I'll checkmine tomorrow.

Richard

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Hi Richard,
The springs are included (L15 &L16)
The adjusters are represented by .5mm wire

 

[Mr Grumpy]

I assembled the fans, with the spindle protruding through the fan top case.
I then spent ages weathering them as once installed in to the loco will be inaccessible.
I went to great lengths to try to produce a dusty oily effect, which looked pretty good in real, not so good in the pics.
Having got them how I want... Guess what... They are practically invisible through the fan grille!! Perhaps I should have left them bright red!

I may strip back to red and give a very light dust over from the airbrush.

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Ok... So I have been scatter gunning a little, so to refocus:
1. Install head code boxes/drivers desk in cab, including tail lights and head code lights.
2. Join cabs to body and complete fitting out body.
3. @Steph Dale is building a pair of high tech chassis complete with split axels and remote gear boxes. I'm sure Steph will be able to explain the technicalities better than I!
Once I have these, I will check clearances and install the bogie pivots and complete the bogie frames. Will order the 1mm hex bar in the next few days for the brake rod adjusters.
4. Spray and number, fit name and works plates and glazing.
5. Install XL decoder and Cliff's speaker and enclosure.
6. Move on to next project.....

 

[mickoo]

Or, just jump to step 6 that's what I generally do

The fans look good, even if they are near invisible the important fact is that 'you' know what's inside

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Or, just jump to step 6 that's what I generally do

Sounds like a plan!!
I guess step 7 should be go down the pub!!
Thanks for the link to Eileen's Emporium.. The 1mm rod should be spot on

 

[Mr Grumpy]

The headcode boxes/drivers desks are now soldered in to place. I also installed the tail lights at the same time.
I filed down the light bezels to about 1/2 their thickness as the loco looked a tad goggle eyed. They may need a little more.
Number 2 end cab took hours to get right, but the number one end was not such a struggle!
I still need to clean up and fill all the tiny (and not so tiny) pin holes and fit the lower body step.
My 1mm hex rod for the brake linkage adjusters and tiny hex nuts have arrived. The nuts are for the brake linkage (circled)

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Not much to report. I have been preparing the body for painting, which has meant filling many pin holes and scratches. The scratches were inflicted by my over zealous cleaning up.
I used automotive stopper, and once sanded back with 2500 grit paper is super smooth. Still a bit to do on the cab roofs. I took a close up of some of the filled pin holes. Although they can be seen, they are absolutely smooth.

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Made the most of the good weather this morning and got the top coat on. A little tidying up needed, hand rails to be cleaned off etc.
Most annoyingly some paint has come away from the cab door window frame, back to bare metal.......
I wil rub down the whole body with Halfords rubbing compound then 3500 grit wet and dry.

 

[richard carr]

Richard

I like the rounded corners to the blue you have achieved, but what happened to the yellow paint you appear to have lost ?

Richard

 

[Mr Grumpy]

The yellow on the cab sides was just overspray from the cab front and Windows. To get the round corners, I masked the yellow straight across the bottom of the windows and vertically down the cab side. I then cut a j shaped piece of masking tape and ran along the two pieces at the corner. I may have to re-spray the yellow, as there is a fair bit of overspray on the nose top where the tape had a gap :-(

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Please can anyone shed some light on another query I have?
I sprayed the roof of my Heljan 47 a dark grey as per the attached photo.
Moving on to my DJH 47, I have painted the roof blue and hatches to represent fibreglass. I will weather the roof (already started to fade the blue) but then looked at this photo again. It looks like the loco's roofs were painted grey, rather than just became soot stained. And if so, would the hatches be left unpainted to (I guess) allow light in to the engine room? They look either filthy or grey in the pic.
Does anyone out there know?
Many thanks...I want to get it right!!
PS: unsure if the photo is copy write, I found it many years ago.

 

[Brian Daniels]

Looking good but I think you should bring the yellow round the corners a bit more, it sits further back down the cab side.

As to the roof colour, it is just muck up there, they all started out as blue or green.

 

[richard carr]

Richard

I wouldn't worry about the copyright, personal research is fair use.

Stratford painted the roofs of their 47s in a light grey in the late 70s early 80s, other than that I don't think any had their roofs painted grey and those roofs in the photo just look dirty to me. All mine have blue roofs that are then weathered back to a dirty grey black brown colour, in fact lots of variation in colour, almost black around the exhausts, greyer on the edge of the roof, and always a few patches of blue showing through.

Richard

 

[OzzyO]

IIRC, all of the Deasial classes started out with grey roofs no matter what colour the body was painted! It was in TOPS days that the roof started to get painted in the body colour (blue).
This one looks to be a dark grey,


But this one looks to be a light grey,


OzzyO.

 

[Dog Star]

I do like the prototype extended range fuel tank in the last photo.

 

[Mr Grumpy]

Looking good but I think you should bring the yellow round the corners a bit more, it sits further back down the cab side.

As to the roof colour, it is just muck up there, they all started out as blue or green.

I will bring the yellow round a tad more... I will have to respray the cabs though. I guess it's best to do anyway as I managed to get a bit of blue overspray on the nose. Also forgot to de tack the masking tape and pulled some paint from the louvre surround.
I hate painting, I never get it right first time no matter how much prep I do!!