4mm Lellizzick Quay a NCR backwater

[AdeMoore]

I got my first airbrush recently and have been impressed with the Vallejo Model Air range. The paint doesn't need to be thinned and there's a useful selection of airbrush-ready primers, too. Although Vallejo doesn't offer specific 'railway colours' there are over 200 different shades available and, with a little experimentation, I've managed to get a reasonable match for most of my requirements so far.
Ian

Thanks Ian yes I must get one, missed out on one 2nd hand last weekend at the Taunton show because I hesitated, £20 for the compressor think the air brush was the same from the estate of a great modeller so it would of been good quality. I’ll keep my eye out.
I follow Dan Everson Tunnel Lane Model Railways he uses all Vellejo to good effect.
Boomer Diorama is someone else I follow on YouTube he’s a Tamiya and isopropyl alcohol man to very good effect.
So thanks again for the advice.

 

[Andy P]

Good steady progress I see Ade, nice stuff.

 

[AdeMoore]

Good steady progress I see Ade, nice stuff.

Cheers Andy, glacial pace is what I call it! but I am scratch building a 4mm model of WTW Shannon to at the same time though that’s lunch hours at work mainly. Thanks for looking in.

 

[AdeMoore]

Bit more done.
Carved some rocks out of foam, badly!
So after a few coats of paint I thought where I’d got over enthusiastic with the knife some of it wanted filling in.
There is scrub and bushes to add yet but it’s a start.



Next from BGmans bits and pieces at Swag the other Sunday raising money for Bristol & Weston hospitals charity.
If your not on RMweb you won’t have a clue, suffice to say BGman = Grahame Hitchen was taken suddenly and his grateful family sought to sell off his railway modelling items to raise some valuable funds.
I picked up a fair bit and the first bit I have used is some of his hanging basket liner.
I have filled in some of the crevices I thought not realistic.



Getting there I feel.

Then put back the viaduct timber work after the tracsetta realignment.



Thanks for looking in more soon.
Cheers.

 

[AdeMoore]

Albion Yard a blog I follow Paul had a link to Lance Mindheim’s blog which I found interesting, then explored further and this post HereI found rung very true to me.
Get trains running! forget the scenery bridges and viaducts plonk some timber in their place etc etc.
So having read this and to add I had a great nephew round Monday and he’s a train fan at 4, I could only run up and back 7ft on a single line. Now if I crack on with one more board I’ll be around the room for a tail chaser.
I have 2 boards already done that are in the shed awaiting their return to the train room.
But I was going down the split the layout up into manageable chunks route. Hence the Lellizzick Quay thread here, doing one board to scenery stage. Though it is part of a tail chaser.
I see modellers like Andy Peters, Rob and Chris doing the get em running first so I’m chewing over whether to drop what I’m currently doing and crack on with the next board or keep on the course I had set myself.
Fire away with your thoughts.
Cheers.

 

[Alan]

Always get something running. Only do the basics of scenery that might be difficult when the track is laid. Whilst layout building it is nice to have a play as well as a plan.

 

[Flaxfield]

Hi Ade,

I'm definately in the get stuff running section.

I tend to get the track down and spend quite a while playing sorry testing things out before moving on.
For me, this helps to visualise the layout. As you know, I use mainly RTP buildings so I take the time to place the structures, looking for good views, sightlines.

It also helps with getting ideas for the scenery, what compliments the buildings etc

Once the track is painted and ballasted, things can then move quite quickly as in effect you have already worked out the basics. Everything literally just drops into place.

Of course, if the truth be known your great nephew won't care one jot if there's no scenery or buildings.....it's the movement that provides the entertainment, initially at least.


Rob.

 

[AdeMoore]

Always get something running. Only do the basics of scenery that might be difficult when the track is laid. Whilst layout building it is nice to have a play as well as a plan.

Cheers Alan having also read Robs reply below yours it has to be the way to go with 2 unanimous votes!
I definitely leaning that way.
Cheers for the reply

 

[AdeMoore]

Hi Ade,

I'm definately in the get stuff running section.

I tend to get the track down and spend quite a while playing sorry testing things out before moving on.
For me, this helps to visualise the layout. As you know, I use mainly RTP buildings so I take the time to place the structures, looking for good views, sightlines.

It also helps with getting ideas for the scenery, what compliments the buildings etc

Once the track is painted and ballasted, things can then move quite quickly as in effect you have already worked out the basics. Everything literally just drops into place.

Of course, if the truth be known your great nephew won't care one jot if there's no scenery or buildings.....it's the movement that provides the entertainment, initially at least.


Rob.

Cheers Rob I didn’t tag you in my post as I didn’t want to make you feel obliged!
But having read your excellent summary of your approach it makes perfect sense.
Out with the wood working tools it is.
Only trouble is this is a complicated board I’m building it to swing for access to the centre hole. As I didn’t want a duck under or lift up. That means wheels! And with 2 viaducts on it. I may just plank those for now and duck under! But hinges in place ready. Needs thinking about.
Watch this space

 

[AdeMoore]

So cracking on as per the above. The next board is potentially a duck under to get to the centre well.
Knowing that’s no good long term, not a fan of lift out and tip up would hit the ceiling before being upright .
I‘ve come up with an alternative a swing back! Probably ill conceived but worth a shot, bits are in place.
Sketch sorted let the timber cutting commence!








The potential duck under as above.
Please chip in with your views…
Cheers
Ade

 

[Flaxfield]

Morning Ade,

I have no experience at all regarding moveable baseboards and your plan looks sound.

However....going a bit left field, something occurs to me..

Yes, I know you are a bit longer than this everso stumpy Welshman but....

If the boards were set higher, a lot higher, that would lessen the stoop under a solid, non moving board.
I operate my trainsets when at exhibitions at 54ins. Very high. Will little people be looking in ?

Rob.

 

[simond]

Ade

check this out. I think it’s an excellent solution.

North Welsh Coast Railway - Welsh Dragon Rail

www.rmweb.co.uk

Rob,

FWIW my layout is set at eye level when sitting down In an office chair. This puts it above the workbench, and I prefer the sight lines at that height, but does mean I can stand up and reach over as necessary.

atb
Simon

 

[Flaxfield]

Ade

check this out. I think it’s an excellent solution.

North Welsh Coast Railway - Welsh Dragon Rail

www.rmweb.co.uk

Rob,

FWIW my layout is set at eye level when sitting down In an office chair. This puts it above the workbench, and I prefer the sight lines at that height, but does mean I can stand up and reach over as necessary.

atb
Simon

Well, I don't think I've ever seen that done before. I think for peace of mind I would add some diagonal bracing from the baseboard frame to the sides but otherwise that's a perfect solution.

Up, periscope.

 

[AdeMoore]

Morning Ade,

I have no experience at all regarding moveable baseboards and your plan looks sound.

However....going a bit left field, something occurs to me..

Yes, I know you are a bit longer than this everso stumpy Welshman but....

If the boards were set higher, a lot higher, that would lessen the stoop under a solid, non moving board.
I operate my trainsets when at exhibitions at 54ins. Very high. Will little people be looking in ?

Rob.

Morning Rob sorry busy day yesterday!
I do like the thought of that, but the work to do it fills me with dread!
Yes little people will be looking in.
Cheers for the suggestion.
Ade

 

[AdeMoore]

Ade

check this out. I think it’s an excellent solution.

North Welsh Coast Railway - Welsh Dragon Rail

www.rmweb.co.uk

Rob,

FWIW my layout is set at eye level when sitting down In an office chair. This puts it above the workbench, and I prefer the sight lines at that height, but does mean I can stand up and reach over as necessary.

atb
Simon

Thanks for the suggestion Simon.
I do actually follow that thread. So seen it before It is a nice solution. For me though this is a scenic twin viaduct board so those upright supports would spoil the sight lines a fair bit.
Thanks for taking the time and looking in.
Ade

 

[AdeMoore]

Summer turns to autumn so back to the train room!
Bit of scenic work going on between chippying the missing board.
Working up the pond/stream the basket liner is just base for static grass.



Anyway the contraption board as Jeff Grainger (Gill Head Fame on RMW) christened this board.
After planning it way back and angling in each side all looked good in my minds eye!
But setting the 2 ends and front panel up screwed and glued it’s not feasible to swing it back!
I guess I should of listened in geometry!



Below red line is the arc, green the possible arc from the pivot point. Black roughly square.



Below left hand end the hinge side and pivot point. I angled the edge so the movable board didn’t need to come back to a right angle.



How to remedy the situation, my gut feeling is the angle on the right hand end where green meets red line needs taking back towards the left to a point where the green line arc no longer chops into the right hand board.
Then the right hand board with the rock face on it needs extending to meet the new angle of the movable board.
Also tempting to cut a piece out of the front arched panel and join back up together rather than cutting a new front panel.
If anyone should be looking in any view on the deliberate mistake and fix would be welcome.
Cheers
Ade

 

[Dog Star]

There was a relevant article in a recent S7 Newsletter, describing a similar approach to a swinging baseboard. I recollect that the article is one of the Gupworthy Chronicle contributions.

regards, Graham

 

[AdeMoore]

There was a relevant article in a recent S7 Newsletter, describing a similar approach to a swinging baseboard. I recollect that the article is one of the Gupworthy Chronicle contributions.

regards, Graham

Cheers Graham something I’d like to see, but not an S7 subscriber unfortunately.
I’ll see if this weekend I can fix the situation. I can’t believe I overlooked it really.

 

[AdeMoore]

Inspiration came it doesn’t need to swing! 4 castors slides in slides out. Al la tea trolley!
screwed it in place after putting the other side panel on. To make building it easier so I’m hopping over or ducking under for now!






Temp screwed to next board.



Cross brace blocks added.



The 8mm supposed to be 9mm ply a bit boomerang so braced up with a chump of timber. To keep straight while measuring up for the cross braces.



Had to do the same on the other side. No photo of that.
Enjoying this now. Pond/stream coming on a tad too.
More soon.
Cheers for looking in.

 

[AdeMoore]

More done today.
That’s how far the boomerang shape was lying out of line.
braced it up, I won’t say square as there’s not much square on this board but parallel shall we say!
Cross braces in track abutments next.



More soon.
Cheers for the likes and looking in.
Probably off to Portishead WC&P show tomorrow.