Jordan or Plymouth Mad
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Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
Before you start ripping them apart I suggest a good run in is required. Mine lasted ten minutes before it sheared a crank pin.
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Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Due to a number of faults that arose when I adjusted the CVs to dim the lights including having both route indicators on at the same time, together with the excessive rocking motion and a loud click from the motor, I decided to return my model for a refund as I did not want to suffer the same protracted experience that I had with the Lionheart Mogul. A real shame as I have always liked and wanted a Class 14s.
regards
Mike
regards
Mike
John K
Western Thunderer
That's a shame Cliff. Are you going to repair it or return it?
John
Simon
Flying Squad
...but not to debate the cab colour and various errors, but a sort of 'put it right' thread.
Please can we stick to improving the model as is, as not wandering off into the woes or otherwise of production faults etc.
What Jordan is doing is really interesting and relevant to WT, the other stuff is not.
Cliff Williams
Western Thunderer
John K the credentials of Minerva customer support were never in question.
To save cluttering up here I will ping Simon directly to discuss his reply.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
It's the wrong doors Gromit.....
Having no interest in anything remotely Great Western (and it's successors) whatsoever unless it has Chicago in front of it
.... Is it possible when the Cl 14 was originally designed the doors were correct as depicted on the model and they got changed around in production. Or is it just a clunker at the model design stage?
Anyway, your solution appears to be very simple, dare I say satisfying?, but annoying fix.
Removing parts in order to access the cab interior
- a bit like working on a car exept you do have to remember which parts go where after removing them to fix the part located in the depths of the engine bay.
Having no interest in anything remotely Great Western (and it's successors) whatsoever unless it has Chicago in front of it
.... Is it possible when the Cl 14 was originally designed the doors were correct as depicted on the model and they got changed around in production. Or is it just a clunker at the model design stage?Anyway, your solution appears to be very simple, dare I say satisfying?, but annoying fix.
Removing parts in order to access the cab interior
- a bit like working on a car exept you do have to remember which parts go where after removing them to fix the part located in the depths of the engine bay.
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
Dapol got the door handle on the wrong side with the 08 as well.
Simon
Flying Squad
I completelye agree Jordan, and I have no desire to shut down, limit or impede any conversation or discussion, but:
and more recently
Adds nada to the discussion in hand.
And it's boring and dull.
Isn't the Guild forum the correct repository for this sort of guff?
Sorry, that may sound grumpier than it ought to be
and more recently
Adds nada to the discussion in hand.
And it's boring and dull.
Isn't the Guild forum the correct repository for this sort of guff?
Sorry, that may sound grumpier than it ought to be
Simon
Flying Squad
Absolutely right Rob.
And a major reason for that is WT does not get lost in "RTR trivia" for want of a better expression. When Cynric started WT off, this was largely manifested in what were called "wishlists". By now the world of RTR is much more complex, fragmented, consumer driven etc etc. All of which is in its way fascinating and a worthy subject for discussion.
There is much such discussion on RMweb, there is similar O Gauge related discussion on the Guild Forum, there is Scaleforum and there are many other forums besides where it is no doubt a lively topic of discussion.
But it is not what WT is about.
Consider three posters on WT, on the face of it all are using RTR models and all, I think, based upon comments on my "9 years after Cynric" thread may have felt that I was then suggesting that in some way they "didn't fit" into WT. Not so.
Rob, your sheep humour and chronicles don't owe any of their joyful inspiration to RTR, it is your approach to the hobby and the obvious pleasure you derive from it (and your weathering) that makes it so good and enjoyable to read.
Pencarrot's artful evocations of the Southern in the West Country feature RTR stock - but that is not what draws readers back into his world time and time again, rather it is his application of his knowledge of and feeling for his subject that makes it so compelling.
Alan's beautiful (previously OO) but now O gauge world might be based upon RTR models, but it is the imagination, creativity and skill that he always somehow brings to bear and apply to a relatively small area of plywood that makes it so utterly magical.
I could go on, there is so much here that is remarkable in all sorts of ways.
When I came here first, what struck me was how inspiring the whole place was, it made me want to get on and do stuff. It was Rob (Lancer's) Motorail flats at the time, whatever happened to them? It's the same now, I love the way Jordan has laid in to his cab and is sorting it out, Neil's clever and apparently "easy" transformations of basic models are inspiring and I was so impressed by Mick's 3D printing of Bulleid blast pipes that I have just shelled out for my own 1/32 piece of his genius. I look at the lathe work threads and try and visualise doing the same when I have plugged my ML7 in.
And so it goes on.
But, say it ever so quietly, discussions of why such and such a manufacturer got a something wrong, or how they deal with warranty issues, or a myriad of other issues are....
Well, I'll leave you all to draw your own conclusions, personally I'd rather they weren't here.
That's all.
Sorry for thread hijack Jordan, I didn't want to start another thread because I think it would be counter productive and highlight something that doesn't need or want highlighting.
Simon
Martin Shaw
Western Thunderer
I have yet again Simon to disagree with you. The discussion thus far has greatly informed me of the actual and potential failings of the Minerva model and enables an knowledgeable opinion about purchasing one myself, I won't be. Whilst I agree that WT shouldn't become the repository of RTR reviews, this hasn't been as well as being most useful. Seems to me to be exactly where the forum should be, you might think it guff, some of us are not so precious, neither do all of us want to practice welding on a Somerset hillside, but that can have it's place as well.
Martin
Martin
Eastsidepilot
Western Thunderer
I have a class 14 here to convert to S7, still not out of the box, I'll let you know how it handles before and after.
Col.
Col.
Richard
Western Thunderer
I very rarely contribute to WT, but I thought I would write and mention how useful this thread is.
Jordan has highlighted a problem with the cab door and has documented his solution.
I really appreciated having the cab interior explained as it's saved me having to figure out how to get thing apart.
When I finally get around to doing some work with my Class 14, I'll chop the offending door out completely and build a new one as a mirror image.
My fat fingers prevent me doing intricate work in situ, However, I'll have no hesitation in stealing the open door trick rather than trying to fiddle the new door back in exactly the correct position.
As far as the cab colour is concerned, that will stay on hold until I see whose colour solution is closest to what I remember from the 1960s.
Jordan has highlighted a problem with the cab door and has documented his solution.
I really appreciated having the cab interior explained as it's saved me having to figure out how to get thing apart.
When I finally get around to doing some work with my Class 14, I'll chop the offending door out completely and build a new one as a mirror image.
My fat fingers prevent me doing intricate work in situ, However, I'll have no hesitation in stealing the open door trick rather than trying to fiddle the new door back in exactly the correct position.
As far as the cab colour is concerned, that will stay on hold until I see whose colour solution is closest to what I remember from the 1960s.