Scenery & Dioramas
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Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
Depends on which musical history you read. One version has the original Robert Johnson song 'Cross Road Blues' about being stranded in rural Mississipi trying to hitch a ride. Tommy Johnson (another Delta Blues artist) later placed the devil folklore around the song.
Podartist79
Western Thunderer
I can’t fully speak for Paul Bambrick on this Dave.
They are his work with some of Keith’s embellishments.
However, I’m fairly sure the odd one had a Metcalfe Kit at its core, and PB tweaked them, created the stonework, etc, to make them represent buildings that would fit the area modelled.
Others he’s used prototype images for, some of those images I’m using for the scenic work.
Hope that’s some way to an explanation?
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adrian
Flying Squad
They do all look authentic and certainly shout Peak District to me. It's a superb bit of modelling, as individual buildings spot on, perhaps it's me but my only comment would be that to me the colours are too uniform on the cottage walls. It may well be the detailing is still ongoing (a few more chimneys?) but for me a little more tonal variation in the cottages would make it work better as an overall scene.
Podartist79
Western Thunderer
Adrian,
It’s a very interesting point you make.
There probably could be a reduction in uniformity to a degree, along with some further detailing.
Some of that is ongoing, as this is a WIP.
Your suggestion wouldn’t necessarily counter what I’m going to add, but with this being a forced perspective backdrop, the addition of detail and contrast needs to be handled carefully - as I’m sure you’d agree - otherwise the illusion of distance could be lost? The further the distance the more uniformity and lack of detail is my feeling with this.
It’s a balancing act though, that hopefully on completion with a bit more of what you suggest, will look right in the end.
adrian
Flying Squad
Yes I'd agree and needs to be very subtle to maintain the illusion. I'm also aware of the danger in using modern photos to judge a bygone era. For example the photo I posted the walls by the roads seem to be a shade darker than other retaining walls for example around the courtyard of the house on the far right. This I would guess is due to the internal combustion engine pollution of the last 50-70 years.
Jim smith-wright
Western Thunderer
Pollution 50 to 70 years ago was a lot worse than it is now. Buildings are generally much cleaner now than they used to be.
WM&CQR
Member
Absolutely. Here is a comparison of Glasgow buildings 2016 and 1960s. (For info: the city was not originally built in basalt and then rebuilt in sandstone
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Podartist79
Western Thunderer
Keith Newton’s Rosedale pushes on again with me carrying on covering the areas in various flora.
I thoroughly enjoyed trying to recreate this Derbyshire style stream-culvert too (first pic).
Still not complete, WIP.
I thoroughly enjoyed trying to recreate this Derbyshire style stream-culvert too (first pic).
Still not complete, WIP.
Podartist79
Western Thunderer
Thank you Ian.
It just needs a bit more variety along the banks of the stream and a few more weeds, odds and ends in the meadow-field area I feel.
It just needs a bit more variety along the banks of the stream and a few more weeds, odds and ends in the meadow-field area I feel.
Osgood
Western Thunderer
Another thing which must be so difficult to get to look natural in model form is stratified rock - bedding planes and their splitting into blocks.
Although reasonably familiar with geology, I always find the appearance of such rock faces in real life to be almost unnatural, more so when the fractures and fissures are regular and on a large scale.
In the cutting above the culvert you have craftily chosen something resembling neither English or Flemish bond - looks good!
Although reasonably familiar with geology, I always find the appearance of such rock faces in real life to be almost unnatural, more so when the fractures and fissures are regular and on a large scale.
In the cutting above the culvert you have craftily chosen something resembling neither English or Flemish bond - looks good!
Podartist79
Western Thunderer
To confess,
None of the rock work or the stone faced culvert front is my work - it’s all the work of Keith - the layout owner: he’s hand carved all of it in plaster.
My part has been the scenic dressing and colouring.
Thank you for the lovely comments nonetheless.
Neil.
None of the rock work or the stone faced culvert front is my work - it’s all the work of Keith - the layout owner: he’s hand carved all of it in plaster.
My part has been the scenic dressing and colouring.
Thank you for the lovely comments nonetheless.
Neil.
adrian
Flying Squad
I watched the video of Rosedale in today's Virtual show by the Guild it's looking really good and effective. It was great to watch and Keith covered all sorts of the little details.
Podartist79
Western Thunderer
I’ve been working on a depiction of York in 4mm scale, along with Paul Bambrick, on behalf of a client.
The client decided, along with York, there was scope to add a part of the line out to Scarborough, taking in Hutton’s Ambo.
We’ve now modelled Hutton’s Ambo - with a large dollop of licence (work in progress).
I’ve undertaken the ‘green stuff’. PB the backscene and many of the buildings seen here.
Our client has built the platforms, bridge across the river, etc.
The client decided, along with York, there was scope to add a part of the line out to Scarborough, taking in Hutton’s Ambo.
We’ve now modelled Hutton’s Ambo - with a large dollop of licence (work in progress).
I’ve undertaken the ‘green stuff’. PB the backscene and many of the buildings seen here.
Our client has built the platforms, bridge across the river, etc.
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