4mm OLD MILLS is up in the air!

Quintus

Western Thunderer
I think the photo of 7729 is a little misleading, as the bump stop for the tank filler lid gives a good impression of a flanged tank vent. I have noticed this on a number of 57xx photos, so beware!
7727 however is definitely flanged.
Regards
Mike
 

RonnieS

Western Thunderer
A mate sent me an earlier (1950s shot) of 7723 and it illustrates your point and makes me think that my 7723 is correct?1771771910911.jpeg
 

Quintus

Western Thunderer
Afraid it's a bit of a jungle, when panniers had a works visit they could emerge rather differently than when they went in.
This could mean different tanks, front footsteps, brake hangars, tank vents, top feed and so on.
The first photo of 7723 has the later emblem, and the second photo of the same loco has the early emblem, indicating a works visit between the two photos, thus the differences.
Regards
Mike
 
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RonnieS

Western Thunderer
Afraid it's a bit of a jungle, when panniers had a works visit they could emerge rather differently than when they went in.
This could mean different tanks, front footsteps, brake hangars, tank vents, top feed and so on.
The first photo of 7723 has the early emblem, and the second photo of the same loco has the later emblem, indicating a works visit between the date of the first and second photo, thus the differences.
Regards
Mike
It's a minefield when it comes to emulating a particular loco/wagon/coach/signal box etc! I have another 3 pics of 7723 that I can't post here (copyright) only 1 has a clear view of the vents (unflanged) but is not dated! However the latest photo is flanged. I went back to the original and blew it up. (you have to reduce the resolution to post here) and you can see the bolts.
 

RonnieS

Western Thunderer
Two Halls Project
At one time I had a couple of DJH Halls but they were not happy with the tight 5ft/2ft 6 radius Peco points in the
fiddle yard. I passed them onto my good pal Tony Wright who tweaked them and sold them; with the proceeds going to a cancer charity. God Bless Tony for his massive efforts for a worthwhile cause.

For a small layout like Old Mills a couple of Hornby Railroad Halls suitably modified are more suited. I began work on the project last night by adding weight. As supplied they weigh 222g and spin the wheels on my heaviest trains.

From previous "tweaks" I know that for every 50g of weight added you increase haulage by a dozen wagons.
There have been a few exceptions to this notably some Bachmann locos with Teflon wheels?

So far 50g added to Hall 1; a slab of 2mm thick lead in firebox top, firebox sides plated with 1mm thick lead and 2 chunks of 5mm thick lead under cab floor (yellow arrow). I cut a slice out of a piece of thin plastic tube and sprung it into the smokebox between the smokebox door and the shown orange boiler band.
The area between the orange boiler band and the red arrow is filled by by a stack of foreign coins. The reason for the plastic spacer is so the weight is more or less balanced about the centre driver.
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RonnieS

Western Thunderer
Yes a lead lump BUT it only gained me 9g so I don't think I'll bother on Hall 2. It was a "faf" filing it to fit, drilling holes and finding a couple of M2 screws. On reassembly I am up to 292g with a fall plate and crew still to go in. In theory a max load of 44 wagons. Longer than any train I regularly run. Therefore Hall 2 can be around 270g. Enough is as good as a feast!
 
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RonnieS

Western Thunderer
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The fall plate from 1mm lead and a pewter Masterpiece crew + inspector added a bit more weight.
All up weight now 299g! Next Hall 2 . Then the cosmetic work on both. They will be:-

4914 Cranmore Hall
4961 Stedham Hall
 
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